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stylicho · 10-30-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinAkuma

Shogun won the fight, i didnt think anyone could do what he did to machida so now I am sure that Anderson Silva is the best in mma

I find this funny because when Silva was fighting in Pride he was just another contender. I really dont see what he improved on so much. He still gets taken down at will against anybody with wrestling credentials. And he still relies on his height advantage at his weight class with his speed advantage too. I guess his timing has improved drastically

. I dont see Silva moving up in weight and winning any type of championship because he may still have the speed advantage but his height and reach will be nullified. He will have a much harder time using knees against somebody 5 inches taller than him.

delirium · 10-30-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stylicho

I find this funny because when Silva was fighting in Pride he was just another contender. I really dont see what he improved on so much. He still gets taken down at will against anybody with wrestling credentials. And he still relies on his height advantage at his weight class with his speed advantage too. I guess his timing has improved drastically

. I dont see Silva moving up in weight and winning any type of championship because he may still have the speed advantage but his height and reach will be nullified. He will have a much harder time using knees against somebody 5 inches taller than him.

Yeah, Anderson Silva is nothing special. Any noob LHW (e.g., Former LHW Champion Forrest Griffin, etc.) will pwn this overrated fighter.

He hasn't improved on anything since Pride at all. The competition in the UFC is just inferior, drastically inferior to that of Pride. Of Course the Spider "gets taken down at will"... that's why he lost to former 2 time olympic Greco-Roman wrestler Dan Henderson! Silva's just a tall freak... like 7 feet tall... hence his name "the Spider"... yeah... this guy is overrated... anyone with half a brain can see that...

rdrr · 10-30-2009, 04:17 PM

first of, anderson silva never got beat by dan henderson. second; he is 6'2' and he has long arms and legs; and knows how to keep his distance and strike. He can strike with his kicks like they are another set of arms; kinda like Crocop and his head kicks. Another thing is, when he gets shot on, he is willing to give it up to pull guard bc of his world class jiu-jitsu. Watch the fight with him and Travis Lutter. He's only lost 4 times and one of those times (Chonan) he got subbed by flying heel hook cause he was fighting with a broken foot. I'll admit def. Griffin is overrated but Anderson Silva is NOT. I've watched enough MMA to see that.

stylicho · 10-30-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by delirium

Yeah, Anderson Silva is nothing special. Any noob LHW (e.g., Former LHW Champion Forrest Griffin, etc.) will pwn this overrated fighter.

He hasn't improved on anything since Pride at all. The competition in the UFC is just inferior, drastically inferior to that of Pride. Of Course the Spider "gets taken down at will"... that's why he lost to former 2 time olympic Greco-Roman wrestler Dan Henderson! Silva's just a tall freak... like 7 feet tall... hence his name "the Spider"... yeah... this guy is overrated... anyone with half a brain can see that...

Lol, you taking this seriously arent ya? First, Griffin was always a very slow fighter. And match ups mean everything in mma. Plus, Griffin gave up in the fight. I think that was pretty clear. Not that he was gonna win though. Dan Henderson didnt try to get the takedown over and over like most wrestlers would. Henderson knows that UFC fans like stand up wars and he fights for the fans. Silva is tall for his weight class. And he has really long arms. Does that clear it up for you? Like I previously said, Silva will not have this advantage going up in weight. And what does his nickname have to do with this?

delirium · 10-31-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stylicho

Lol, you taking this seriously arent ya? First, Griffin was always a very slow fighter. And match ups mean everything in mma. Plus, Griffin gave up in the fight. I think that was pretty clear. Not that he was gonna win though. Dan Henderson didnt try to get the takedown over and over like most wrestlers would. Henderson knows that UFC fans like stand up wars and he fights for the fans. Silva is tall for his weight class. And he has really long arms. Does that clear it up for you? Like I previously said, Silva will not have this advantage going up in weight. And what does his nickname have to do with this?

Clearly, whether The Spider will dominate LHW remains to be seen.

scooby · 11-07-2009, 03:04 AM

Sorta half OT since this is a UFC thread, but anybody interested in the Strikeforce event? Fedor AND Mousasi fighting on the same card. So excited. Hope they both win.

VanDamMan · 11-09-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by scooby

Sorta half OT since this is a UFC thread, but anybody interested in the Strikeforce event? Fedor AND Mousasi fighting on the same card. So excited. Hope they both win.

Mousasi is an animal. I believe he was Crocop's training partner.

Interesting to see both Mousasi and Fedor have a very sad look on their faces when they enter the ring. Seems pretty common for the Eastern European and Russian fighters.

scooby · 11-10-2009, 11:24 AM

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Mousasi is an animal.

Absolutely. Sad we didn't get to see Vitor vs Mousasi, that would have been great to watch if it went ahead.

rdrr · 11-10-2009, 11:32 AM

I don't know about mousasi, he fought babalu who is past his prime and soukodjou, who im 100 percent positive doesn't train for fights. Mousasi is good, but a lil better than average, sort of like a rich franklin type.

delirium · 11-10-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rdrr

and soukodjou, who im 100 percent positive doesn't train for fights.

haha

scooby · 11-12-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rdrr

and soukodjou, who im 100 percent positive doesn't train for fights.

what...

ch3cooh · 11-15-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rdrr

I don't know about mousasi, he fought babalu who is past his prime and soukodjou, who im 100 percent positive doesn't train for fights. Mousasi is good, but a lil better than average, sort of like a rich franklin type.

Mousasi is a stud. Super technical striker and very competent on the ground. I thought it was a fluke when he KO'ed Jacare with an upkick but the run he's on right now is undeniable. Strikeforce is assembling a nice little stable of talent. They just added Zaromskis. In a few months there could be a Strikeforce show on CBS with Zaromskis, Jacare, Carano (say what you want she gets ratings), Mousasi and Fedor.

This is on top of guys like Shields, Lawler, King Mo, Overeem (

), Brett Rogers, Nick Diaz, Matt Lindland, Mayhem, and a host of others.

That's quite a roster.

scooby · 11-15-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ch3cooh

Mousasi is a stud. Super technical striker and very competent on the ground. I thought it was a fluke when he KO'ed Jacare with an upkick but the run he's on right now is undeniable. Strikeforce is assembling a nice little stable of talent. They just added Zaromskis. In a few months there could be a Strikeforce show on CBS with Zaromskis, Jacare, Carano (say what you want she gets ratings), Mousasi and Fedor.

This is on top of guys like Shields, Lawler, King Mo, Overeem (

), Brett Rogers, Nick Diaz, Matt Lindland, Mayhem, and a host of others.

That's quite a roster.

I agree. Best thing is he is still only 24 years old. Hopefully he stays around for a long time.

Don't know how true this is so don't quote me on this, but have you heard strikeforce might pick up Dan Henderson aswell? He is apparently a free agent at the moment. Read about this on a forum.

VanDamMan · 11-15-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby

I agree. Best thing is he is still only 24 years old. Hopefully he stays around for a long time.

Don't know how true this is so don't quote me on this, but have you heard strikeforce might pick up Dan Henderson aswell? He is apparently a free agent at the moment. Read about this on a forum.

If that is true, i am guessing UFC will retain him just to keep strikeforce boring.

They did give us Coutre vs. Vera for free.

scooby · 11-15-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VanDamMan

If that is true, i am guessing UFC will retain him just to keep strikeforce boring.

They did give us Coutre vs. Vera for free.

What'd you think of the card? I'm really liking Matt Brown. Was rooting for him in since TUF

Oh, and anyone hear about Brock Lesnar? Hope its not too serious that his career in MMA has to end.

VanDamMan · 11-16-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby

What'd you think of the card? I'm really liking Matt Brown. Was rooting for him in since TUF

Oh, and anyone hear about Brock Lesnar? Hope its not too serious that his career in MMA has to end.

I wouldn't be surprised if all the Brock-drama was just a promotional to hype his next fight.

Matt Brown is ok. My old coach was cornering him last fight. Maybe why he won ;-).

Half_A_Person · 11-16-2009, 02:34 PM

Wow, a news article says Brock Lesnar has an intestinal disorder and will need "major surgery". Sounds so scary, I feel so bad for him. I'm not crazy about him as a fighter but I really hope he is alright and will fight again.

scooby · 11-16-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Half_A_Person

Wow, a news article says Brock Lesnar has an intestinal disorder and will need "major surgery". Sounds so scary, I feel so bad for him. I'm not crazy about him as a fighter but I really hope he is alright and will fight again.

Yeah I feel the same way.

rdrr · 11-16-2009, 10:31 PM

looking forward to ufc 106 on saturday. ortiz/griffin and koscheck/rumble will be good fights.

scooby · 11-16-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rdrr

looking forward to ufc 106 on saturday. ortiz/griffin and koscheck/rumble will be good fights.

Ooh rumble fighting again so soon? I guess he didn't need much rest from his last fight.

I'm most interested in lil nogs debut in the UFC. Hope he does well.

10-30-2009, 04:17 PM	#63 (permalink)
rdrr Status: One of the cool kids. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: the city Gender: Male Posts: 339	first of, anderson silva never got beat by dan henderson. second; he is 6'2' and he has long arms and legs; and knows how to keep his distance and strike. He can strike with his kicks like they are another set of arms; kinda like Crocop and his head kicks. Another thing is, when he gets shot on, he is willing to give it up to pull guard bc of his world class jiu-jitsu. Watch the fight with him and Travis Lutter. He's only lost 4 times and one of those times (Chonan) he got subbed by flying heel hook cause he was fighting with a broken foot. I'll admit def. Griffin is overrated but Anderson Silva is NOT. I've watched enough MMA to see that. __________________ These are my friends This is who they have been for always These are my days This is how they stay

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rdrr Status: One of the cool kids. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: the city Gender: Male Posts: 339	I don't know about mousasi, he fought babalu who is past his prime and soukodjou, who im 100 percent positive doesn't train for fights. Mousasi is good, but a lil better than average, sort of like a rich franklin type. __________________ These are my friends This is who they have been for always These are my days This is how they stay

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Half_A_Person Status: SAS Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Gender: Female Age: 17 Posts: 349	Wow, a news article says Brock Lesnar has an intestinal disorder and will need "major surgery". Sounds so scary, I feel so bad for him. I'm not crazy about him as a fighter but I really hope he is alright and will fight again. __________________ "There will always be something to ruin our lives, it all depends on what or which finds us first. We are always ripe and ready to be taken."

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rdrr Status: One of the cool kids. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: the city Gender: Male Posts: 339	looking forward to ufc 106 on saturday. ortiz/griffin and koscheck/rumble will be good fights. __________________ These are my friends This is who they have been for always These are my days This is how they stay

11-07-2009, 03:04 AM	#66 (permalink)
scooby Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Gender: Male Age: 20 Posts: 116	Sorta half OT since this is a UFC thread, but anybody interested in the Strikeforce event? Fedor AND Mousasi fighting on the same card. So excited. Hope they both win.