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STORMZ13 · 10-25-2009, 03:36 AM

Machida vs Rua, what did you guys think of the decision? I only seen the last round on youtube, so I can't really say who really won.

Brightpaperwarewolf · 10-25-2009, 06:20 AM

I'm glad Machida won because that's who I was rooting for, but Shogun was delivering some serious blows to Machida, especially in the first and 2nd round. Machida held his ground, but honestly it could've gone either way, but it was a great fight.

Half_A_Person · 10-25-2009, 09:01 AM

Shogun definitely won the fight. But I really like Machida so I'm happy for him. I read that Dana White is trying to set up a rematch ASAP.

delirium · 10-25-2009, 09:36 AM

Shogun won that fight. He was prepared, and his plan was executed perfectly. Does anyone else realize how hard it is to throw 1000 muay thai kicks a day for months? That man was prepared!

I, too, was (am?) a Machida fan. I bought into the hype about his invincibility. Clearly, yesterday, Shogun showed that Machida can be beaten (as, in most people's eyes, he was beaten). Anyway, good thing on the ASAP rematch. (I was so upset after the fight last night... still sort of am... Shogun got robbed.)

seanybhoy · 10-25-2009, 07:42 PM

Stupidest, stupidest , stupidest ****ing decision ever !

Machida turns up, gets his head kicked in for 5 rounds n walks away with the victory , wtf ?

So so so so so ****ing stupid btw.

seanybhoy · 10-25-2009, 07:43 PM

The fight for anyone who missed it.

http://www.mmator.com/lyoto-machida-...10772-s30.html

seanybhoy · 10-25-2009, 07:45 PM

Aww man i'm still raging from that decision btw, stupidest douchiest ****wittiest moronic decision ever btw.

Brightpaperwarewolf · 10-25-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by seanybhoy

Aww man i'm still raging from that decision btw, stupidest douchiest ****wittiest moronic decision ever btw.

It was a pretty even fight and a hard fight for anyone to call because it was so technical and hard to tell what hits were effective vs not. You make it sound like the Cain Vasquez vs Ben Rothwell fight when Ben *** was totally beaten, Lyoto countered every hit Shogun made, even though Shogun hit Lyoto harder. I can't wait to see the rematch.

letitrock · 10-25-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brightpaperwarewolf

It was a pretty even fight and a hard fight for anyone to call because it was so technical and hard to tell what hits were effective vs not. You make it sound like the Cain Vasquez vs Ben Rothwell fight when Ben *** was totally beaten, Lyoto countered every hit Shogun made, even though Shogun hit Lyoto harder. I can't wait to see the rematch.

Yeah thats what I thought too, it was a pretty close even fight

But the thing that sticks out in my mind in favor of Shogun is that his hits punished Machida waaaaaymore than Machida's hits punished Shogun-

I mean just look at how hard Shogun hit Machida in the thigh/leg repeatedly-I mean, today Machida is for sure hurting more from the fight than Shogun is.

But I have to admit I feel sorry for Machida-I mean he looks like such an adorable playful go lucky boyish-faced guy and from the way he fights so elusively, and for him to have his victory questioned like that?-I just feel kinda bad for him.....

Half_A_Person · 10-25-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by letitrock

But the thing that sticks out in my mind in favor of Shogun is that his hits punished Machida waaaaaymore than Machida's hits punished Shogun-

I mean just look at how hard Shogun hit Machida in the thigh/leg repeatedly-I mean, today Machida is for sure hurting more from the fight than Shogun is.

But I have to admit I feel sorry for Machida-I mean he looks like such an adorable playful go lucky boyish-faced guy and from the way he fights so elusively, and for him to have his victory questioned like that?-I just feel kinda bad for him.....

Machida's legs and midsection were all red and bruised from Shogun's kicks. He limped back to his locker room. Shogun still looked fresh after the fight and didn't have a scratch on him. Shogun definitely did more damage.

I agree, I also feel sorry for Machida. I feel sorry for both of them actually. Machida is such a nice and likable guy and I was reading comments on some MMA articles and people are calling him a sissy and saying "f**k Machida" and things like that which is ridiculous because all Machida did was do his job. And as for Shogun, I think he deserved to win. He looked really depressed after wards. This was his dream and he trained so hard for this fight and still lost even though he showed better technique and more power.

ShinAkuma · 10-26-2009, 01:51 PM

Shogun won the fight, i didnt think anyone could do what he did to machida so now I am sure that Anderson Silva is the best in mma

scooby · 10-26-2009, 06:59 PM

Yeah, I'm quite annoyed at the decision as well. I might be biased though as I was rooting for shogun and also rogan/goldberg sure loved talking about shogun and it might have swayed my opinion, so I might have to watch it again.

JoshC · 10-26-2009, 09:51 PM

haha i empathize with machida too, he just has this vulnerability to him, as well as who doesnt love seeing the karate stance. machida got beat up because he didnt use his proven formula, i think now that hes champ he wants to satisfy the fans and be well liked, and not fall into the slump of lackluster fights that silva went through. although i was going for machida, i was shocked at the decision as well. but then again, if you wana be the champ you should whip the champs ***. although rua did good countering and was very technically proficient, you just dont leave a championship fight that close if youre the challenger.

scooby · 10-27-2009, 01:46 AM

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haha i empathize with machida too, he just has this vulnerability to him, as well as who doesnt love seeing the karate stance. machida got beat up because he didnt use his proven formula, i think now that hes champ he wants to satisfy the fans and be well liked, and not fall into the slump of lackluster fights that silva went through. although i was going for machida, i was shocked at the decision as well. but then again, if you wana be the champ you should whip the champs ***. although rua did good countering and was very technically proficient, you just dont leave a championship fight that close if youre the challenger.

Rampage lost his belt to Forrest in a real close fight, so I dunno about the absolute domination needed to win the belt. But yeah poor Machida. Everyone booing him and talking bad about him because of the decision when the judges were to blame.

ShinAkuma · 10-27-2009, 02:06 PM

Does anyone here know why UFC account on youtube was suspended? what the hell

delirium · 10-27-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshC

haha i empathize with machida too, he just has this vulnerability to him, as well as who doesnt love seeing the karate stance. machida got beat up because he didnt use his proven formula, i think now that hes champ he wants to satisfy the fans and be well liked, and not fall into the slump of lackluster fights that silva went through. although i was going for machida, i was shocked at the decision as well. but then again, if you wana be the champ you should whip the champs ***. although rua did good countering and was very technically proficient, you just dont leave a championship fight that close if youre the challenger.

Championship fight or not -- if you clearly outpoint your opponent, you've beaten him. It's not a rule (written or unwritten) that in order to become champion, the challenger has to TKO the champion. Machida and Shogun are clearly very evenly matched, so it's unlikely that either one of them is going to dominate the other (even in a rematch). Suppose Shogun clearly outpoints Machida in the rematch, but still gets robbed. By your reasoning, that would be perfectly okay. I disagree.

seanybhoy · 10-27-2009, 07:55 PM

Their was a couplea good fights that night i thought, the Cain Velasquez vs Ben Rothwel was pretty good as was the preliminary fight between Anton Hardonk n Patrick Barry.

The Anthony Johnson vs Yoshiyuka Yoshida was a bit of a joke tho tbh.

rdrr · 10-27-2009, 08:03 PM

Rua was robbed, even dana f'n white said it. I wish Okami fought better; another pride guy fighting poorly. I was a big pride fan, it sucks to see all these fighters fading. Next card is gonna be couture vs. vera, where i hope couture wins. vera is overrated.

Keith · 10-27-2009, 08:21 PM

I think Shogun won the fight even though im a Machida fan, I was really suprised by the decision I would love to see a rematch.

stylicho · 10-30-2009, 08:25 AM

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Yeah I've been a member for years.

Curious to know how long. Ive been a member since 04 but I dont go there much anymore. Too many keyboard warriors lol.

10-25-2009, 06:20 AM	#42 (permalink)
Brightpaperwarewolf Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 928	I'm glad Machida won because that's who I was rooting for, but Shogun was delivering some serious blows to Machida, especially in the first and 2nd round. Machida held his ground, but honestly it could've gone either way, but it was a great fight. __________________ Happiness is only real if shared.

10-25-2009, 09:01 AM	#43 (permalink)
Half_A_Person Status: SAS Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Gender: Female Age: 17 Posts: 349	Shogun definitely won the fight. But I really like Machida so I'm happy for him. I read that Dana White is trying to set up a rematch ASAP. __________________ "There will always be something to ruin our lives, it all depends on what or which finds us first. We are always ripe and ready to be taken."

10-25-2009, 07:42 PM	#45 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	Stupidest, stupidest , stupidest **ing decision ever ! Machida turns up, gets his head kicked in for 5 rounds n walks away with the victory , wtf ? So so so so so **ing stupid btw. __________________ Keep it simple

10-25-2009, 07:43 PM	#46 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	The fight for anyone who missed it. http://www.mmator.com/lyoto-machida-...10772-s30.html __________________ Keep it simple

10-25-2009, 07:45 PM	#47 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	Aww man i'm still raging from that decision btw, stupidest douchiest ****wittiest moronic decision ever btw. __________________ Keep it simple

10-25-2009, 03:36 AM	#41 (permalink)
STORMZ13 Status: SAS Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: So. California Gender: Male Posts: 22	Machida vs Rua, what did you guys think of the decision? I only seen the last round on youtube, so I can't really say who really won.

10-25-2009, 09:36 AM	#44 (permalink)
delirium Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto Gender: Male Posts: 214	Shogun won that fight. He was prepared, and his plan was executed perfectly. Does anyone else realize how hard it is to throw 1000 muay thai kicks a day for months? That man was prepared! I, too, was (am?) a Machida fan. I bought into the hype about his invincibility. Clearly, yesterday, Shogun showed that Machida can be beaten (as, in most people's eyes, he was beaten). Anyway, good thing on the ASAP rematch. (I was so upset after the fight last night... still sort of am... Shogun got robbed.)

10-26-2009, 01:51 PM	#51 (permalink)
ShinAkuma Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 281	Shogun won the fight, i didnt think anyone could do what he did to machida so now I am sure that Anderson Silva is the best in mma

10-26-2009, 06:59 PM	#52 (permalink)
scooby Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Gender: Male Age: 20 Posts: 115	Yeah, I'm quite annoyed at the decision as well. I might be biased though as I was rooting for shogun and also rogan/goldberg sure loved talking about shogun and it might have swayed my opinion, so I might have to watch it again.

10-26-2009, 09:51 PM	#53 (permalink)
JoshC Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA Gender: Male Posts: 51	haha i empathize with machida too, he just has this vulnerability to him, as well as who doesnt love seeing the karate stance. machida got beat up because he didnt use his proven formula, i think now that hes champ he wants to satisfy the fans and be well liked, and not fall into the slump of lackluster fights that silva went through. although i was going for machida, i was shocked at the decision as well. but then again, if you wana be the champ you should whip the champs ***. although rua did good countering and was very technically proficient, you just dont leave a championship fight that close if youre the challenger.

10-27-2009, 02:06 PM	#55 (permalink)
ShinAkuma Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 281	Does anyone here know why UFC account on youtube was suspended? what the hell

10-27-2009, 07:55 PM	#57 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	Their was a couplea good fights that night i thought, the Cain Velasquez vs Ben Rothwel was pretty good as was the preliminary fight between Anton Hardonk n Patrick Barry. The Anthony Johnson vs Yoshiyuka Yoshida was a bit of a joke tho tbh. __________________ Keep it simple

10-27-2009, 08:03 PM	#58 (permalink)
rdrr Status: One of the cool kids. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: the city Gender: Male Posts: 339	Rua was robbed, even dana f'n white said it. I wish Okami fought better; another pride guy fighting poorly. I was a big pride fan, it sucks to see all these fighters fading. Next card is gonna be couture vs. vera, where i hope couture wins. vera is overrated. __________________ These are my friends This is who they have been for always These are my days This is how they stay

10-27-2009, 08:21 PM	#59 (permalink)
Keith Status: available for download... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lowell, Massachusetts Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 843	I think Shogun won the fight even though im a Machida fan, I was really suprised by the decision I would love to see a rematch. __________________ "Difficulties are things that show a person what they are" -Epictetus "Its always darkest before the dawn" -? "If your going through hell, keep going" -Winston Churchill