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| Yes - even tough he used PEDs |
   
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4 | 30.77% |
| Yes - no absolute proof he used PEDs |
  
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2 | 15.38% |
| No- he must have used PEDs |
  
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6 | 46.15% |
| No - other |
  
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1 | 7.69% |
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06-19-2012, 06:04 AM
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Roger Clemens in the Hall of Fame?
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06-19-2012, 06:07 AM
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I wish it wasn't called the Hall of Fame. If we can't put them in there, there should still be room for them in what is meant to be a museum of baseball...and like or not, these guys played and had large impacts. It should be noted.
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06-24-2012, 04:10 PM
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Absolutely, yes, regardless of the PEDs.
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06-24-2012, 04:13 PM
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Hell no. I'm of the opinion that using performance enhancing drugs in professional sports should be a crime, same as fraud in any other area which gains you millions of dollars is.
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06-24-2012, 04:40 PM
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I have no problem with guys like Palmeiro or even Sosa and McGwire not getting in; those guys were borderline anyway, and their greatest seasons were no doubt PED fueled. But Clemens and Bonds were already all-time greats even before they started their PED use. Plus, it annoys me that the same sports media that totally enabled this stuff when it was going on are acting so indignant and sanctimonious about it now. Nobody even wanted to think about it when McGwire and Sosa were putting on their show in '98, and anyone who did was considered a killjoy--wasn't the guy who initially pointed out the andro in McGwire's locker more or less pooh-poohed as exactly that? In any case, PED use was so widespread that sorting out who used and who didn't, and to what degree it actually helped them, is pretty much impossible. So, at this point, I just don't care. Treat this era, warts and all, like every other (and every era has had its warts), and move on.
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07-03-2012, 09:06 PM
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Clemens was a HOF pitcher even before the doping so yes, let the doper in.
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07-07-2012, 06:16 PM
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Absolutely...one of the best ever!
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07-07-2012, 09:53 PM
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A lot of the guys he was pitching to during that time period were probably roided up, so the playing field was actually even most of the time.
Bonds and Clemens were already very good before they got on the roids I think Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame too, so maybe I'm way too lenient.
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07-23-2012, 12:10 PM
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07-23-2012, 12:38 PM
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I'm fine with the lifetime ban for Rose . . . unlike a lot of the steroid guys, he broke a baseball rule that was officially on the books, and a major one at that. I'd be ok with him being inducted posthumously, though (it's only a lifetime ban, after all).
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07-23-2012, 03:45 PM
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I am just happy Barry Larkin is in......GO REDS!
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