Originally Posted by the cheat
I wish it wasn't called the Hall of Fame. If we can't put them in there, there should still be room for them in what is meant to be a museum of baseball...and like or not, these guys played and had large impacts. It should be noted.
Yeah, that's exactly it. I get that a lot of people don't want to see Roger Clemens or Barry Bonds giving a Hall of Fame acceptance speech anytime soon, but we can't just pretend that these guys didn't exist and weren't among the very greatest of all time.
I have no problem with guys like Palmeiro or even Sosa and McGwire not getting in; those guys were borderline anyway, and their greatest seasons were no doubt PED fueled. But Clemens and Bonds were already all-time greats even before they started their PED use.
Plus, it annoys me that the same sports media that totally enabled this stuff when it was going on are acting so indignant and sanctimonious about it now. Nobody even wanted to think about it when McGwire and Sosa were putting on their show in '98, and anyone who did was considered a killjoy--wasn't the guy who initially pointed out the andro in McGwire's locker more or less pooh-poohed as exactly that?
In any case, PED use was so widespread that sorting out who used and who didn't, and to what degree it actually helped them, is pretty much impossible. So, at this point, I just don't care. Treat this era, warts and all, like every other (and every
era has had its warts), and move on.