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MobiusX · 04-24-2012, 09:43 PM

Whenever boxing fanatics try to make the argument that MMA requires no skills, that boxing is a science, etc..., the best way to explain it to these people who don't have much knowledge about the sport is to admit that you don't have to be the best in the disciplines. You don't have to be the best boxer, muay thai fighter, wrestler, etc... It takes a lifetime for a person to master a discipline. Many professional boxers started from an early age and even to this day are still trying to improve. NOBODY can be the best professional boxer AND a muay thai fighter AND a wrestler, etc... all in the same time. Anderson Silva is good but isn't likely to be the best muay thai fighter out there or the best in brazilian jiu jitsu, he might be mediocre in all disciplines when you compare him to the best, BUT what makes it impressive is that he is well trained in these disciplines and has been able to be a well rounded fighter since he can apply his knowledge of all disciplines and use them so effectively in fights that it's been impossible to defeat him the UFC which is hard for fighters to do. Boxers trying to constantly improve in their sport? Try MMA, there are 5 main disciplines you must now train in so this will significantly increase your chances of having more weaknesses. An MMA fighter can be impressive in standing up but once he's taken to the ground he lost his advantage and is exposed. MMA gives you the option of picking another discipline to use when you are fighting a guy who is better than you in a specific area. Like I said, mastering a discipline takes a lifetime so of course they're not going to be the best boxer AND kickboxer AND wrestler and muay thai fighter AND brazilian jiu jitsu, that's UNHEARD of. This explains why it's difficult to have a professional undefeated record in MMA. Junior Dos Santos isn't champion because he's a good striker, but if it wasn't for his good take down defense he would have lost a long time ago. The only reason why it's harder for an average person to become a professional boxer is that they only are given 1 option, boxing, BUT they must master this discipline, be the best of the best at it. You can choose from many more in MMA and you don't have to be the best. MMA requires MORE skills.

AnotherRawAddict · 04-24-2012, 10:10 PM

When I read the title and took it literally, I was ready to go on the same rant you just posted lol.

sporteous · 04-26-2012, 01:11 PM

I know people who make fun of my interest in MMA, then I showed them Anderson Silva VS. Forrest Griffin. Who be laughin now *****!

enzo · 04-26-2012, 01:18 PM

I thought this argument has ended long ago. I never knew it was still being raised.

illmatic1 · 09-17-2012, 07:00 PM

I like both boxing and mma.... i just know more about boxing cause i only recently started watching mma.... but even before i watched mma i never assumed that it required no talent....

Killer2121 · 09-17-2012, 07:40 PM

Pro Wrestling > all

srs.

burrito · 09-17-2012, 07:50 PM

Ever since I really started watching MMA I havent been able to watch boxing. I appreciate boxing for what it is. But MMA will always be the more "pure" combat sport imo. Hence the need to be well rounded like you said.

TrcyMcgrdy1 · 09-17-2012, 07:54 PM

Sometimes, I imagine taking a leg kick from an MMA fighter, and I cry at just the thought...

Borophyll · 09-17-2012, 07:57 PM

Sagat > Balrog

theseventhkey · 09-18-2012, 04:54 PM

I've always hated these debates to be honest. Because I trained a little in everything. Although boxing is what I will watch first. I try to give credit to all professional fighters no matter what the discipline is. It's takes guts to get in the ring or that octagon thing and fight by the "rules" when your getting your butt whip.

MiMiK · 09-18-2012, 07:38 PM

i was about to go ape **** on you MobiusX but then i read the thread lol. completely agree you u sir!

just watch randy couture [vetaran mma fighter] vs james toney [**** talking boxer].

video: http://www.boobootv.com/2010/08/30/r...ey-full-fight/

not one punch landed.

remixkilla · 09-18-2012, 08:03 PM

MMA>Boxing

SomebodyWakeME · 09-19-2012, 01:35 AM

Your opinions may be true, but it's also what makes MMA a watered down sport as well.
MMA just doesn't excite me anymore unless people are throwing kicks and punches. I'm tired of seeing the wrestling/grappling. It's also much easier to see mismatches since the opponents are not equally trained in each skill.
Last but not least, MMA is a bs trend of a sport for youngsters primarily. I see one more tap-out shirt im gonna flip out on someone. Everyone and their mother thinks they're a damn MMA fighter these days. Or maybe it's the best excuse for two guys to stick each others faces in their a**ses, i dunno. But it's sorta corny now for sure.

theseventhkey · 09-19-2012, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiMiK

i was about to go ape **** on you MobiusX but then i read the thread lol. completely agree you u sir!

just watch randy couture [vetaran mma fighter] vs james toney [**** talking boxer].

video: http://www.boobootv.com/2010/08/30/r...ey-full-fight/

not one punch landed.

I wonder what would happen if You put switch them and made the fight in a boxing ring? Toney would win.

theseventhkey · 09-19-2012, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomebodyWakeME

Your opinions may be true, but it's also what makes MMA a watered down sport as well.
MMA just doesn't excite me anymore unless people are throwing kicks and punches. I'm tired of seeing the wrestling/grappling. It's also much easier to see mismatches since the opponents are not equally trained in each skill.
Last but not least, MMA is a bs trend of a sport for youngsters primarily. I see one more tap-out shirt im gonna flip out on someone. Everyone and their mother thinks they're a damn MMA fighter these days. Or maybe it's the best excuse for two guys to stick each others faces in their a**ses, i dunno. But it's sorta corny now for sure.

lol, Yeah MMA is for youngsters, they are the main ones talking about "Your sport is dying!!!!!!!!"

JGreenwood · 09-19-2012, 04:43 AM

I lost all respect for boxing after Mike Tyson tried to make his comeback and they were making very questionable judgement calls to make him look like a beast. I haven't been able to watch it since Lennox Lewis destroyed him and had him running for his life.

I enjoy MMA because of the various styles and the great amount of preparation it takes to participate. I admit when I first started watching and the fight would go to the ground I would get bored, but now that I have learned the strategy, and understand and can see what they're trying to do it's my favorite part of the sport.

VanDamMan · 09-19-2012, 07:43 AM

I stopped watching MMA the last few years. Thai boxing wrestling and BJJ. Thats what everyone does now. No one trying anything different.

srschirm · 09-19-2012, 07:48 AM

MMA blows, sorry. Boxing is the sweet science.

remixkilla · 10-14-2012, 06:20 PM

MMA requires a lot of skills. Just like boxing. To say is doesn't is just ignorant. anybody see ufc 153?

04-24-2012, 09:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
MobiusX Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Gender: Male Posts: 4,300	MMA= No Skills Whenever boxing fanatics try to make the argument that MMA requires no skills, that boxing is a science, etc..., the best way to explain it to these people who don't have much knowledge about the sport is to admit that you don't have to be the best in the disciplines. You don't have to be the best boxer, muay thai fighter, wrestler, etc... It takes a lifetime for a person to master a discipline. Many professional boxers started from an early age and even to this day are still trying to improve. NOBODY can be the best professional boxer AND a muay thai fighter AND a wrestler, etc... all in the same time. Anderson Silva is good but isn't likely to be the best muay thai fighter out there or the best in brazilian jiu jitsu, he might be mediocre in all disciplines when you compare him to the best, BUT what makes it impressive is that he is well trained in these disciplines and has been able to be a well rounded fighter since he can apply his knowledge of all disciplines and use them so effectively in fights that it's been impossible to defeat him the UFC which is hard for fighters to do. Boxers trying to constantly improve in their sport? Try MMA, there are 5 main disciplines you must now train in so this will significantly increase your chances of having more weaknesses. An MMA fighter can be impressive in standing up but once he's taken to the ground he lost his advantage and is exposed. MMA gives you the option of picking another discipline to use when you are fighting a guy who is better than you in a specific area. Like I said, mastering a discipline takes a lifetime so of course they're not going to be the best boxer AND kickboxer AND wrestler and muay thai fighter AND brazilian jiu jitsu, that's UNHEARD of. This explains why it's difficult to have a professional undefeated record in MMA. Junior Dos Santos isn't champion because he's a good striker, but if it wasn't for his good take down defense he would have lost a long time ago. The only reason why it's harder for an average person to become a professional boxer is that they only are given 1 option, boxing, BUT they must master this discipline, be the best of the best at it. You can choose from many more in MMA and you don't have to be the best. MMA requires MORE skills.

04-26-2012, 01:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
sporteous Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Gender: Male Posts: 749	MMA= No Skills I know people who make fun of my interest in MMA, then I showed them Anderson Silva VS. Forrest Griffin. Who be laughin now *****!

04-26-2012, 01:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
enzo Status: SAS Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Male Age: 25 Posts: 1,521	I thought this argument has ended long ago. I never knew it was still being raised. __________________ ...let the silence breathe.

09-17-2012, 07:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
illmatic1 Status: t(-_-t) Join Date: May 2012 Location: Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA Gender: Male Age: 19 Posts: 3,892	I like both boxing and mma.... i just know more about boxing cause i only recently started watching mma.... but even before i watched mma i never assumed that it required no talent.... __________________ I was born by the river in a little tent And just like that river I've been running ever since It's been a long time coming But I know a change is gonna come, oh yes it will It's been too hard living, but I'm afraid to die Cos I don't know what's out there beyond the sky It's been a long, a long time coming But I know a change is gonna come, oh yes it will

09-17-2012, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
TrcyMcgrdy1 Status: Slowly Improving :) Join Date: Oct 2011 Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 3,529	Sometimes, I imagine taking a leg kick from an MMA fighter, and I cry at just the thought... __________________ Why hello there!

04-24-2012, 10:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
AnotherRawAddict Status: ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Manhattan, KS Gender: Male Age: 22 Posts: 493	When I read the title and took it literally, I was ready to go on the same rant you just posted lol.

09-17-2012, 07:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Killer2121 Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada Gender: Male Age: 20 Posts: 2,092	Pro Wrestling > all srs.

09-17-2012, 07:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
burrito Status: SAS Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA Gender: Male Age: 27 Posts: 179	Ever since I really started watching MMA I havent been able to watch boxing. I appreciate boxing for what it is. But MMA will always be the more "pure" combat sport imo. Hence the need to be well rounded like you said.

09-17-2012, 07:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
Borophyll Status: Throwing rocks at you. Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Hoboken, NJ Gender: Male Posts: 2,939	Sagat > Balrog

09-18-2012, 04:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
theseventhkey Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The seventh gate of hell Gender: Male Posts: 3,475	I've always hated these debates to be honest. Because I trained a little in everything. Although boxing is what I will watch first. I try to give credit to all professional fighters no matter what the discipline is. It's takes guts to get in the ring or that octagon thing and fight by the "rules" when your getting your butt whip.

09-18-2012, 07:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
MiMiK Status: đƐŢƛĊĦƩƉ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 779	i was about to go ape ** on you MobiusX but then i read the thread lol. completely agree you u sir! just watch randy couture [vetaran mma fighter] vs james toney [** talking boxer]. video: http://www.boobootv.com/2010/08/30/r...ey-full-fight/ not one punch landed. __________________ I feel the universe functioning perfectly, but I'm still perfectly locked inside my self... instead of oneness I feel isolation. http://www.di.fm/vocaltrance

09-18-2012, 08:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
remixkilla Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oz Gender: Male Age: 20 Posts: 102	MMA>Boxing

09-19-2012, 01:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
SomebodyWakeME Status: SAS Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ohio, United States Gender: Male Age: 28 Posts: 4,920	Your opinions may be true, but it's also what makes MMA a watered down sport as well. MMA just doesn't excite me anymore unless people are throwing kicks and punches. I'm tired of seeing the wrestling/grappling. It's also much easier to see mismatches since the opponents are not equally trained in each skill. Last but not least, MMA is a bs trend of a sport for youngsters primarily. I see one more tap-out shirt im gonna flip out on someone. Everyone and their mother thinks they're a damn MMA fighter these days. Or maybe it's the best excuse for two guys to stick each others faces in their a**ses, i dunno. But it's sorta corny now for sure.

09-19-2012, 04:43 AM	#16 (permalink)
JGreenwood Status: Skeletal wreck of man... Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Anywhere, USA Gender: Male Posts: 1,492	I lost all respect for boxing after Mike Tyson tried to make his comeback and they were making very questionable judgement calls to make him look like a beast. I haven't been able to watch it since Lennox Lewis destroyed him and had him running for his life. I enjoy MMA because of the various styles and the great amount of preparation it takes to participate. I admit when I first started watching and the fight would go to the ground I would get bored, but now that I have learned the strategy, and understand and can see what they're trying to do it's my favorite part of the sport.

09-19-2012, 07:43 AM	#17 (permalink)
VanDamMan Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,852	I stopped watching MMA the last few years. Thai boxing wrestling and BJJ. Thats what everyone does now. No one trying anything different. __________________ Beneficiary of 52 infractions and 5 warnings.

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