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ironheart · 11-05-2009, 10:44 AM

Unless he's engaged in self promotion, I've always thought that David Haye comes across as a very grounded and affable individual.

I can well understand that his method of generating hype isn't going to be to everyones' taste but at least his exhibitionist antics draw attention (even if some of it is negative) and quite frankly, boxing needs every shot in the arm that it can get because as a whole, it's increasingly becoming a niche sport.

On the actual fight itself I honestly don't know who to pick. In his own ungainly way, Valuev is very effective at what he does, namely jab/smother/occasional uppercut. Much is made of the fact that he doesn't punch his weight but he can still hit very hard and, whatever the outcome, I would be very surprised indeed if Haye doesn't hit the canvas at least once.

ironheart · 11-07-2009, 10:11 AM

Just a quick reminder to anyone that is interested, Haye v Valuev is on tonight. My eleventh hour prediction is for a late Valuev KO (although I would be elated to be proven wrong

).

seanybhoy · 11-09-2009, 08:34 AM

I'm glad Haye won, it's good for british boxing.

The true test will be whether he can defend his title against the likes of Vitali Klitschko.

MavenMI6Agent009 · 11-09-2009, 09:27 AM

I hope Pacquiao wins against cotto on Saturday night.

ironheart · 11-10-2009, 03:46 PM

Congratulations to Haye! I'm glad I was wrong and I was also very impressed that he employed a sensible gameplan and stuck with it throughout the entire contest (although he did give his power a cameo in the 12 when he staggered Valuev).

Next up Pacquiao vs Cotto!!

Like Maven I'm rooting for a Pacman KO but Cotto is very strong and gifted so I think it's a definately a 50/50 encounter.

ironheart · 11-15-2009, 12:19 AM

Pacquiao has done it again!!!

Tonight he made an ELITE welterweight, with ELITE welterweight power and speed look incredibly ordinary. It was on the verge of being a mismatch at times but at least Cotto manged to have his moments (proving also what a great chin Pac is blessed with) which is more than can be said for Pac's last three opponents.

Manny Pacquiao has now got to be recognized as one of the greatest fighters of the past thirty years.

ch3cooh · 11-15-2009, 07:39 AM

Pacquiao is a bad bad man, I've been a fan of his for a long time. The guy is all-timing right now. By the time he's done he will be remembered as one of the top 10 P4P guys of all time.

ironheart · 11-19-2009, 12:20 AM

I wonder if he can beat Mayweather?

Head says no, heart says he must.

Eraserhead · 11-19-2009, 08:17 AM

I've been sparring, mostly for fun, for a couple of years now. I plan to join a boxing gym soon, although I'm a bit anxious about doing so...

I like to watch boxing from time to time, but I've barely gotten into it yet. Hah... carry on with your discussion.

11-09-2009, 08:34 AM	#63 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	I'm glad Haye won, it's good for british boxing. The true test will be whether he can defend his title against the likes of Vitali Klitschko. __________________ Keep it simple

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11-19-2009, 08:17 AM	#69 (permalink)
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11-05-2009, 10:44 AM	#61 (permalink)
ironheart Status: The Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England. Gender: Male Age: 32 Posts: 70	Unless he's engaged in self promotion, I've always thought that David Haye comes across as a very grounded and affable individual. I can well understand that his method of generating hype isn't going to be to everyones' taste but at least his exhibitionist antics draw attention (even if some of it is negative) and quite frankly, boxing needs every shot in the arm that it can get because as a whole, it's increasingly becoming a niche sport. On the actual fight itself I honestly don't know who to pick. In his own ungainly way, Valuev is very effective at what he does, namely jab/smother/occasional uppercut. Much is made of the fact that he doesn't punch his weight but he can still hit very hard and, whatever the outcome, I would be very surprised indeed if Haye doesn't hit the canvas at least once.

11-07-2009, 10:11 AM	#62 (permalink)
ironheart Status: The Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England. Gender: Male Age: 32 Posts: 70	Just a quick reminder to anyone that is interested, Haye v Valuev is on tonight. My eleventh hour prediction is for a late Valuev KO (although I would be elated to be proven wrong ).

11-10-2009, 03:46 PM	#65 (permalink)
ironheart Status: The Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England. Gender: Male Age: 32 Posts: 70	Congratulations to Haye! I'm glad I was wrong and I was also very impressed that he employed a sensible gameplan and stuck with it throughout the entire contest (although he did give his power a cameo in the 12 when he staggered Valuev). Next up Pacquiao vs Cotto!! Like Maven I'm rooting for a Pacman KO but Cotto is very strong and gifted so I think it's a definately a 50/50 encounter.

11-15-2009, 12:19 AM	#66 (permalink)
ironheart Status: The Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England. Gender: Male Age: 32 Posts: 70	Pacquiao has done it again!!! Tonight he made an ELITE welterweight, with ELITE welterweight power and speed look incredibly ordinary. It was on the verge of being a mismatch at times but at least Cotto manged to have his moments (proving also what a great chin Pac is blessed with) which is more than can be said for Pac's last three opponents. Manny Pacquiao has now got to be recognized as one of the greatest fighters of the past thirty years.

11-15-2009, 07:39 AM	#67 (permalink)
ch3cooh Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oklahoma...OK! Gender: Male Posts: 53	Pacquiao is a bad bad man, I've been a fan of his for a long time. The guy is all-timing right now. By the time he's done he will be remembered as one of the top 10 P4P guys of all time.

11-19-2009, 12:20 AM	#68 (permalink)
ironheart Status: The Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England. Gender: Male Age: 32 Posts: 70	I wonder if he can beat Mayweather? Head says no, heart says he must.