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downbutnotout · 03-23-2009, 09:44 AM

Anyone into boxing here?

scaredtolive · 03-23-2009, 01:36 PM

I love boxing. There's a local gym I want to join but I just don't have the time right now. My favorite current fighters are Miguel Cotto and Kelly Pavlik. I like Roberto Duran and Hagler from the 80's How about you?

downbutnotout · 03-23-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scaredtolive

I love boxing. There's a local gym I want to join but I just don't have the time right now. My favorite current fighters are Miguel Cotto and Kelly Pavlik. I like Roberto Duran and Hagler from the 80's How about you?

Well i have enjoyed watching boxing since i was a kid. But i seriously got interested when i was about 15.

I've never gone to a gym because there aren't any near where i live, and my family were always too protective of me to fight like that.

I like the determination of Evander Holyfield, I think Ricky Hatton is a warrior, Tommy Hearns, Alfonso Gomez, Sergio Mora, Danny Williams, Frank Bruno.

Basically if you are a half decent fighter with a good heart, then i will be a fan.

scaredtolive · 03-23-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by downbutnotout

Well i have enjoyed watching boxing since i was a kid. But i seriously got interested when i was about 15.

I've never gone to a gym because there aren't any near where i live, and my family were always too protective of me to fight like that.

I like the determination of Evander Holyfield, I think Ricky Hatton is a warrior, Tommy Hearns, Alfonso Gomez, Sergio Mora, Danny Williams, Frank Bruno.

Basically if you are a half decent fighter with a good heart, then i will be a fan.

yeah Holyfield has had a great career. He needs to retire though before he gets seriously hurt. Ricky Hatton has great heart, Tommy Hearns is one of the most powerful knock out artists of all time, Alfonso Gomez and Sergio Mora are pretty good fighters too. I don't much about Danny Williams and Frank Bruno other than their British I think. If I remember correctly Bruno fought Tyson in the early 90's. Calzaghe was another great fighter. Too bad he retired. I would have liked to have to seen him against Pavlik at 168

downbutnotout · 03-23-2009, 05:14 PM

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yeah Holyfield has had a great career. He needs to retire though before he gets seriously hurt. Ricky Hatton has great heart, Tommy Hearns is one of the most powerful knock out artists of all time, Alfonso Gomez and Sergio Mora are pretty good fighters too. I don't much about Danny Williams and Frank Bruno other than their British I think. If I remember correctly Bruno fought Tyson in the early 90's. Calzaghe was another great fighter. Too bad he retired. I would have liked to have to seen him against Pavlik at 168

I agree about Evander, no-one should be fighting at 46!

Pavlik would have been a great fight for Calzaghe. Too bad he lost against B-hop. If he had won, i'm sure he could have beaten Calzaghe.

seanybhoy · 03-23-2009, 05:27 PM

I love boxing but i don't watch it much anymore.

I used to like watching Barrera , Tyson and Calzaghe's fights.

Nowadays i like Hatton and David Haye .

MavenMI6Agent009 · 03-23-2009, 06:01 PM

I like watching oscar de la hoya, ricardo mayorga, sugar shayne mosley, roy jones jr, floyd mayweather, zab judah, bernard hopkins, fernando vargas, just about any fight.

scaredtolive · 03-23-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by downbutnotout

I agree about Evander, no-one should be fighting at 46!

Pavlik would have been a great fight for Calzaghe. Too bad he lost against B-hop. If he had won, i'm sure he could have beaten Calzaghe.

I'm not sure Pavlik would have beaten Calzaghe especially at 168. The thing with Calzaghe is how do you hit him? and if you can't hit him how do you beat him? He made Kessler look like a fool and Kessler is a class fighter.

scaredtolive · 03-23-2009, 06:05 PM

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I love boxing but i don't watch it much anymore.

I used to like watching Barrera , Tyson and Calzaghe's fights.

Nowadays i like Hatton and David Haye .

You'll appreciate the name Ken Buchanon being from Scotland. I enjoy watching his fight with Duran on you tube. David Haye is a good fighter I just don't know if he's big enough to take one of the Klitchko's. He's certainly good enough to hold one of the other belts.

downbutnotout · 03-24-2009, 04:42 AM

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I'm not sure Pavlik would have beaten Calzaghe especially at 168. The thing with Calzaghe is how do you hit him? and if you can't hit him how do you beat him? He made Kessler look like a fool and Kessler is a class fighter.

Calzaghe was a really good fighter. But his record (in my opinion) was classic Frank Warren match making. He made sure Calzaghe had a longer title hold, and avoided most fighters in their primes.

Jeff Lacy and Kessler were the best at 168, then B Hop and Jones Jr at 175.

Too many fighters he fought were either "past it" (Chris Eubank), or not experienced or decent enough (Peter Manfredo).

seanybhoy · 03-24-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scaredtolive

You'll appreciate the name Ken Buchanon being from Scotland. I enjoy watching his fight with Duran on you tube. David Haye is a good fighter I just don't know if he's big enough to take one of the Klitchko's. He's certainly good enough to hold one of the other belts.

Yeah Ken Buchanan now we're going back a while, loving the tartan shorts though hehe.

seanybhoy · 03-24-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by downbutnotout

Calzaghe was a really good fighter. But his record (in my opinion) was classic Frank Warren match making. He made sure Calzaghe had a longer title hold, and avoided most fighters in their primes.

Jeff Lacy and Kessler were the best at 168, then B Hop and Jones Jr at 175.

Too many fighters he fought were either "past it" (Chris Eubank), or not experienced or decent enough (Peter Manfredo).

Yeah sure his record is testament to match making , his ability though is unquestionable.

On another note i woulda liked to see him fight Roy Jones Jr. in his prme that woulda been something else ah well not to be eh.

downbutnotout · 03-24-2009, 12:04 PM

I've been watching the contender recently. (re-watching series 1).

Its interesting that most of the humble and "nice guy" fighters go on to win, while the jerks lose alot.

I find that great.

I really couldn't stand Jesse Brinkley or Ahmed Kaddour!

The best was Alfonso Gomez. He was great.

scaredtolive · 03-24-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by seanybhoy

Yeah sure his record is testament to match making , his ability though is unquestionable.

On another note i woulda liked to see him fight Roy Jones Jr. in his prme that woulda been something else ah well not to be eh.

I disagree. It goes both ways. Maybe he didn't fight Roy Jones Jr or B-Hop in their primes but they didn't break their back to fight him either. He did fight Kessler in his prime and B-Hop obviously can still fight considering what he did to Pavlik. He made Lacy look weak and just about everybody predicted Lacy to knock him out. Roy Jones Jr ducked a lot of people himself and B-Hop will turn every fight into a jabbing contest. Calzaghe style wasn't always pretty but his fights were usually active.

seanybhoy · 03-26-2009, 10:47 AM

Hatton v Pacquiao should be a great fight aww man i can't wait.

seanybhoy · 03-26-2009, 10:48 AM

On another note i think Amir Kahn has a lot of potential if he shows patience , as for the other brits Danny Williams and Audley Harrison aww man the word joke springs to mind.

downbutnotout · 03-26-2009, 10:56 AM

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On another note i think Amir Kahn has a lot of potential if he shows patience , as for the other brits Danny Williams and Audley Harrison aww man the word joke springs to mind.

Audley Harrison is definitely a joke. Danny is extremely inconsistent. Although these days he's completely "shot".

Amir keeps fighting "blown up" super featherweights. He hasn't fought against many people the same size as him, and when he fought Prescott, it showed why!

He's got great skills (decent attack, good movement, fast etc). His defence has improved alot too. But anyone has a chance against him, because he cannot take a punch!

seanybhoy · 03-26-2009, 11:34 AM

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But anyone has a chance against him, because he cannot take a punch!

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Yeah no **** .

downbutnotout · 04-08-2009, 06:38 AM

Khan is now going to fight "Andreas Kotelnik" for a version of the lightweight world belt (wba i think).

Its ridiculous, because its against yet another shorter fighter. Khan has faced mostly guys 5"6-5"8 during his career. Most of them were old, or had no power.

The only guys his own size were Breidis Prescott (khan got beaten in 1 round by him) and some mediocre british fighters like scott lawton.

Any time Khan faces a non british based fighter with similar physical attributes, he's going to be in trouble.

I hate warrens match-making. It makes fighters look better than they are, because he gets title shots and easy fights all the time.

Look at what happened to Enzo Maccaranelli. He's always looked a bit vulnerable, and was knocked out by Ola Olafabi.

Khans "chin" is even worse than Enzos, and if Khan fights someone with a pulse its lights out.

Ricky Hatton sets a good example for british fighters. Just get on with it and fight. He's the best.

seanybhoy · 04-08-2009, 10:32 AM

You summed it up nicely .

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03-26-2009, 10:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	Hatton v Pacquiao should be a great fight aww man i can't wait. __________________ Keep it simple

03-26-2009, 10:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	On another note i think Amir Kahn has a lot of potential if he shows patience , as for the other brits Danny Williams and Audley Harrison aww man the word joke springs to mind. __________________ Keep it simple

03-23-2009, 01:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
scaredtolive Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: here and there Gender: Male Posts: 524	I love boxing. There's a local gym I want to join but I just don't have the time right now. My favorite current fighters are Miguel Cotto and Kelly Pavlik. I like Roberto Duran and Hagler from the 80's How about you?

03-24-2009, 12:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
downbutnotout Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Male Age: 22 Posts: 729	I've been watching the contender recently. (re-watching series 1). Its interesting that most of the humble and "nice guy" fighters go on to win, while the jerks lose alot. I find that great. I really couldn't stand Jesse Brinkley or Ahmed Kaddour! The best was Alfonso Gomez. He was great.

04-08-2009, 06:38 AM	#19 (permalink)
downbutnotout Status: Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Male Age: 22 Posts: 729	Khan is now going to fight "Andreas Kotelnik" for a version of the lightweight world belt (wba i think). Its ridiculous, because its against yet another shorter fighter. Khan has faced mostly guys 5"6-5"8 during his career. Most of them were old, or had no power. The only guys his own size were Breidis Prescott (khan got beaten in 1 round by him) and some mediocre british fighters like scott lawton. Any time Khan faces a non british based fighter with similar physical attributes, he's going to be in trouble. I hate warrens match-making. It makes fighters look better than they are, because he gets title shots and easy fights all the time. Look at what happened to Enzo Maccaranelli. He's always looked a bit vulnerable, and was knocked out by Ola Olafabi. Khans "chin" is even worse than Enzos, and if Khan fights someone with a pulse its lights out. Ricky Hatton sets a good example for british fighters. Just get on with it and fight. He's the best.

04-08-2009, 10:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
seanybhoy Status: U lookin at me ? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 4,000	You summed it up nicely . __________________ Keep it simple