Top Ten Creationist Aruguements

[Your dreaming WAKE UP]

http://youtu.be/SSxgnu3Hww8

http://youtu.be/xfZFsXfCy6s

All so true.

[lonelyjew]

Eh, I wish people could understand that religion and science don't need to conflict... Catholics don't have a problem with science.

[_AJ_]

This is the best arguments they can come with???
I dont even believe in this religion stuff and I can come up with better stuff!

a good argument would be like:
"There were tons and tons of con artist in the past, yet somehow Jesus's movement spread worldwide and still exists today very powerful, why is it that?"

I mean come on! wheres the debating skills!? Even if they were to totally disprove atheists, that still doesn't mean their religion is correct. You have to provide evidence to support your arguement too, not just disprove others

[Resonance]

If someone can actually be bothered to watch these, please list the arguments in a post so the rest of us can respond.

Myself I gave up watching religious apology on youtube awhile back, because their points are all so terrible. For instance I remember a video entitled "ATHEISM DESTROYED WITH ONE QUESTION", and it was a man in a hat who said "What came first, the chicken or the egg? GOD!" And I said "No, the egg" but he couldn't hear me because he was from the internet and I was talking to my screen.

[Dark Alchemist]

Those were funny

[Dark Alchemist]

Originally Posted by lonelyjew

Catholics don't have a problem with science.

Some don't, but plenty do.

[The Silent 1]

Originally Posted by Resonance

If someone can actually be bothered to watch these, please list the arguments in a post so the rest of us can respond.

The first video:

1. Carbon dating isn't accurate

2. You can't prove evolution

3. If man evolved from monkeys, why do we still have monkeys?

4. The human eye is too complex to have evolved (irreducible complexity)

5. Atheism is actually a religion

6. Oh yeah, well Scientist X believes in god!

7. So your saying everything happened by chance?

8. America is a Christian nation

9. The 2nd law of therodynamics

10. Hitler was an atheist!

The second video:

1. God of the gaps

2. What came before the big bang

3. The Bible tells me so

4. Morality doesn't exist without god

5. You can't take the Bible literally!

6. I had a personal experience.

7. Who are you to question the existence of god?

8. Paschal's wager

9. You became an atheist? Well you were never truly saved

10. To understand the Bible you have to study the original Hebrew and Greek texts.


Pretty much the only one they left out was the Kalam.

[Resonance]

Originally Posted by The Silent 1

The first video:

1. Carbon dating isn't accurate

2. You can't prove evolution

3. If man evolved from monkeys, why do we still have monkeys?

4. The human eye is too complex to have evolved (irreducible complexity)

5. Atheism is actually a religion

6. Oh yeah, well Scientist X believes in god!

7. So your saying everything happened by chance?

8. America is a Christian nation

9. The 2nd law of therodynamics

10. Hitler was an atheist!

The second video:

1. God of the gaps

2. What came before the big bang

3. The Bible tells me so

4. Morality doesn't exist without god

5. You can't take the Bible literally!

6. I had a personal experience.

7. Who are you to question the existence of god?

8. Paschal's wager

9. You became an atheist? Well you were never truly saved

10. To understand the Bible you have to study the original Hebrew and Greek texts.


Pretty much the only one they left out was the Kalam.

Thanks

anyhow:

1. Mayhaps it isn't, but it probably is - regardless challenging carbon dating isn't sufficient to prove anything, only to call into question evidence for evolution.

2. You pretty much can

3. Just because a mutation prospers does not mean the original species goes extinct

4. No it isn't, there are lots of creatures with much more primitive (so to speak) light detectors showing possible evolutionary histories for the human eye, irreducible complexity has failed to ever provide a single example to support the idea...they tried with this flagellum thing they found but turned out to be completely and utterly wrong.

5. No it isn't, it has no positive content.

6. And all these other scientists don't, there are plenty of examples of otherwise intelligent people doing stupid things, it doesn't mean the stupid things become intelligent.

7. No, this is to misunderstand scientific origin theories

8. So what?

9. The second law of theremodynamics as I recall is that entropy always increases, which means nothing can be perfect, eternal or omnipotent, thus disproving the existence of a God, at least in the Christian sense

10. This is debatable, I mean he used the whole 'Christ killers' thing to justify the killing of Jews, and the Wermacht had 'Gott wir uns' or 'God is with us' on their belt buckles, and Nazism was full of Christian mythology, on the other hand some Hitler speeches suggest he may have actually been atheist, but even if he was this proves nothing. One Christian rapist does not make Christianity an ideology of rape.

and on to list two (how is the top ten creationist arguments when the lists are different? Is this the same "10" that God meant when he gave two different sets of commandments within a few pages in Exodus, but claimed they were identical?)

1. Because we don't understand something does not prove Christianity. Better to admit a lack of knowledge than fill gaps with "God did it". In these arguments you could replace "God" with "A Unicorn" and their logic is unchanged.

2. We don't know, what came before God? Regardless, it is silly to attempt to apply notions of "before" to the beginning of time.

3. Science tells you different.

4. Yes it does.

5. A lot of people do.

6. Or you had a dream

7. Stephen

8. Is dumb, paschal's wager logic makes atheism the most logical course of action - sure, a God who wants to throw unbelievers in Hell might exist, but WHICH ONE? It is infinitely more likely that whichever one you pick is the wrong God, thus making the real one angrier with you, ergo one's best course of action is to simply believe that which is demonstrably true.

9. That isn't even an argument.

10. Yeah and to understand Jupiter Optimus Maximus you have to read the original Latin texts, doesn't prove Jupiter was a real God though.

[unknown123]

Anyone remember Kirk Cameron and the crocoduck?

[stranger17]

Originally Posted by lonelyjew

Eh, I wish people could understand that religion and science don't need to conflict... Catholics don't have a problem with science.

They should. Especially if they believe all that nonsense in Genesis about how the world was created.

[AtlasS]

3. Just because a mutation prospers does not mean the original species goes extinct

I personally believe that monkeys were actually human beings ,not the other way around : ) a lot of gossip in my religion says that there are another specie of humans, not discovered yet (a savage one), mutated through isolation and lack of sun light..

[stranger17]

Originally Posted by AtlasS

I personally believe that monkeys were actually human beings ,not the other way around : ) a lot of gossip in my religion says that there are another specie of humans, not discovered yet (a savage one), mutated through isolation and lack of sun light..

You're not Mormon, are you?

[AtlasS]

You're not Mormon, are you?

well, I might call you a moron for not believing in god . What people like you fail to understand is that the evolution theory is a mere theory, with critical proofs that Darwin played & manipulated the bones of animals to find similarities to the human bone.

As if he said : if the monkey had a liittttttttle bit of this, then he would be human....but the real moron "Darwin" didn't look at the fact that a monkey is a monkey & a human is a human...he just said : a monkey looks like human, which doesn't need a theory actually xD

well being a real moron , is really believing that all those creatures in the world started with one cell....what is more stupid-and kinda insulting,sir- is calling us monkeys : )..

other than that, I shared my believe. If it looks weird to you fine, but don't insult people, mister, because your believe is not less unexplainable than this..I heard the most ridicules theories from atheists ,including that humanity was created inside a computer xD..I never called anybody a moron..but it really shows the amount of morality you guys have

[stranger17]

Originally Posted by AtlasS

well, I might call you a moron for not believing in god . What people like you fail to understand is that the evolution theory is a mere theory, with critical proofs that Darwin played & manipulated the bones of animals to find similarities to the human bone.

As if he said : if the monkey had a liittttttttle bit of this, then he would be human....but the real moron "Darwin" didn't look at the fact that a monkey is a monkey & a human is a human...he just said : a monkey looks like human, which doesn't need a theory actually xD

well being a real moron , is really believing that all those creatures in the world started with one cell....what is more stupid-and kinda insulting,sir- is calling us monkeys : )..

other than that, I shared my believe. If it looks weird to you fine, but don't insult people, mister, because your believe is not less unexplainable than this..I heard the most ridicules theories from atheists ,including that humanity was created inside a computer xD..I never called anybody a moron..but it really shows the amount of morality you guys have

Haha! I said MORMON. It was a joke because Mormons believe that black people are the children of the devil, but nevermind.

Everything you just said about evolution is so wrong. It is a theory in the sense that it is backed up by FACTS, something no religion in the world has on its side.

I find it far more insulting that religious people, mainly Christians, have this disgusting agenda to promote servile behavior to worship a celestial dictator. The human race is much more than that and deserves much better, imo.

[dlennr]

Originally Posted by stranger17

Haha! I said MORMON. It was a joke because Mormons believe that black people are the children of the devil, but nevermind.

Everything you just said about evolution is so wrong. It is a theory in the sense that it is backed up by FACTS, something no religion in the world has on its side.

Christianity has plenty of historical evidence to back it up.

I find it far more insulting that religious people, mainly Christians, have this disgusting agenda to promote servile behavior to worship a celestial dictator. The human race is much more than that and deserves much better, imo.

I don't see what's so disgusting about serving a God who loves us, who teaches us to love one another and lead virtuous lives.

[stranger17]

Originally Posted by dlennr

I don't see what's so disgusting about serving a God who loves us, who teaches us to love one another and lead virtuous lives.

Then you have not actually read the Bible, specifically the Old Testament. The god of the OT is a mean-spirited, egotistical, ogre. Why anyone would want to bow down before a being so unworthy of human adoration is beyond me.

[Dark Alchemist]

Originally Posted by AtlasS

well, I might call you a moron for not believing in god . What people like you fail to understand is that the evolution theory is a mere theory, with critical proofs that Darwin played & manipulated the bones of animals to find similarities to the human bone.

As if he said : if the monkey had a liittttttttle bit of this, then he would be human....but the real moron "Darwin" didn't look at the fact that a monkey is a monkey & a human is a human...he just said : a monkey looks like human, which doesn't need a theory actually xD

well being a real moron , is really believing that all those creatures in the world started with one cell....what is more stupid-and kinda insulting,sir- is calling us monkeys : )..

other than that, I shared my believe. If it looks weird to you fine, but don't insult people, mister, because your believe is not less unexplainable than this..I heard the most ridicules theories from atheists ,including that humanity was created inside a computer xD..I never called anybody a moron..but it really shows the amount of morality you guys have

He said "MORMON" not "moron."

[AtlasS]

Haha! I said MORMON. It was a joke because Mormons believe that black people are the children of the devil, but nevermind.


He said "MORMON" not "moron."

:/ Well, It looks like I am a real moron :/ but hey, don't go tough on me, it's not my native language, I am writing in english for fun, so forgive me if I missed reading a letter : / I feel so stupid right now.

[Resonance]

Originally Posted by AtlasS

:/ Well, It looks like I am a real moron :/ but hey, don't go tough on me, it's not my native language, I am writing in english for fun, so forgive me if I missed reading a letter : / I feel so stupid right now.

Don't, I get mormons and morons confused all the time

Originally Posted by AtlasS

I personally believe that monkeys were actually human beings ,not the other way around : ) a lot of gossip in my religion says that there are another specie of humans, not discovered yet (a savage one), mutated through isolation and lack of sun light.

Kind of like in that film, The Descent

[dlennr]

Originally Posted by stranger17

Then you have not actually read the Bible, specifically the Old Testament. The god of the OT is a mean-spirited, egotistical, ogre. Why anyone would want to bow down before a being so unworthy of human adoration is beyond me.

I have studied the Bible since I was a child. I know what's in it. You are misinterpreting it.