The 4 Pillars of a Strong Realiy - from The Blueprint

[BTW]

I not sure how much this would directly relate to SA in most people, but one of the things I have noticed is that I have an extremely weak sense of reality, and basically anyone at all can come along and 'out frame' me and then basically mess with my emotions in any way they like. So after going over this yesterday and realizing how important it can be I thought I'd share it here.

The four pillars are-

1. Your Identity (who you see yourself as)

2. Your Values (your opinions/ beliefs ect)

3. Your Personal Boundaries (where you draw the line with other peoples behavior)

4. How you expect others to act around you (happy, fun, interesting ect)



I hope it makes sense the way I've written it here. The blueprint, by the way, is absolutely the best 'seduction' product I have ever come across, after wasting way too much time reading that stuff. It is not going to cure your SA, but it goes really in depth into a lot of social phenomenon. I would recommend it to anybody (but I do think it is a bit overpriced) .

[Jaiyyson]

You could take these four sub-groups and deliberate on them with your therapist. Or just mull over and explore each of them yourself.

I personally need to put some work into these.

[shynesshellasucks]

I used to be really into RSD. Now I got away from it. I realized that I was faking who I was, and I was becoming delusional. I noticed that I transformed from a loser to a weird delusional guy. I think RSD's idea of putting yourself out there and improving your social skills is good, but beyond that everything else should come off naturally, and no pua techniques should be used when developing social skills. Things such as being non reactive are delusional.

I even got more turned off from RSD when I found out Tyler and the rest of his instructors are not really charismatic and have mediocre looking girlfriends. You can tell they are marketers when they heavily emphasize that looks, money and other important stuff don't matter.

Overall, the basic idea of socializing and improving your social skills is good; everything else is to get on the people's pockets. These four pillars could be good if they come off naturally, by improving yourself, and not by faking it.

[BTW]

Originally Posted by shynesshellasucks

I used to be really into RSD. Now I got away from it. I realized that I was faking who I was, and I was becoming delusional. I noticed that I transformed from a loser to a weird delusional guy. I think RSD's idea of putting yourself out there and improving your social skills is good, but beyond that everything else should come off naturally, and no pua techniques should be used when developing social skills. Things such as being non reactive are delusional.

I even got more turned off from RSD when I found out Tyler and the rest of his instructors are not really charismatic and have mediocre looking girlfriends. You can tell they are marketers when they heavily emphasize that looks, money and other important stuff don't matter.

Overall, the basic idea of socializing and improving your social skills is good; everything else is to get on the people's pockets. These four pillars could be good if they come off naturally, by improving yourself, and not by faking it.

Hmm... well I do have any real life experience to base this off, but just based on my gut feeling I would have to disagree with you.

First of all, half the point what RSD says, at least from my interpretation, is that its all supposed to be natural and that you shouldn't 'techniques'.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'being non reactive is delusional'. Being 'non reactive', as far as I can tell, simply means acting like a confidence person acts. For example lets say an a hot girls randomly walks up to a guy on the street and says 'your a looser'. How will the guy react?

If he is reacting to her:

Girl : Your a looser
Guy : (oh no... I'm a looser, wft do I do?)

If he is not:

Girl: Your a looser
Guy : lol


The nonreactive guy is not buying into her frame. He knows who is his, and anything she says which contradicts this is therefore wrong.

As there is no objective standard of 'coolness', I do not see how you can label anyone with this mindset as 'delusional'.

But this is just my take on it, these guys are making alot of money and everyone should decided for themselves.

[shynesshellasucks]

Originally Posted by BTW

Hmm... well I do have any real life experience to base this off, but just based on my gut feeling I would have to disagree with you.

First of all, half the point what RSD says, at least from my interpretation, is that its all supposed to be natural and that you shouldn't 'techniques'.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'being non reactive is delusional'. Being 'non reactive', as far as I can tell, simply means acting like a confidence person acts. For example lets say an a hot girls randomly walks up to a guy on the street and says 'your a looser'. How will the guy react?

If he is reacting to her:

Girl : Your a looser
Guy : (oh no... I'm a looser, wft do I do?)

If he is not:

Girl: Your a looser
Guy : lol


The nonreactive guy is not buying into her frame. He knows who is his, and anything she says which contradicts this is therefore wrong.

As there is no objective standard of 'coolness', I do not see how you can label anyone with this mindset as 'delusional'.

But this is just my take on it, these guys are making alot of money and everyone should decided for themselves.

In the example you are using, being non reactive may be ok.

But think of that example involving an unattractive fat guy that is dressed like a bum. Also think of the girl having a meaner tone of voice. I would think that such a guy is being delusional. Tyler makes it seem that an unattractive person can get laid by a 10 but that is 99.99% of the time not the case. He also makes it seem that whatever stupidity we may say is ok as long it is said in the right manner; this is something I find wrong.

Now think of that same fat guy loosing weight and actually builds up a six pack; and that same guy also decides to improve his looks by getting rid of his acne and buying some new clothes. Then now we're talking. This guy would then have a reason to have a confident reality and not a delusional one. This guy's looks may not be perfect but with some social skills and many other great things going for him, this guy could actually pull a 10.

I hugely doubt an unattrative person or even an average person can pull a 10 by being delusional and faking and hiding all the bad aspects they have inside of themselves. By an unattractive fat guy being nonreactive, he may come off as being delusional; and his actions may come off weird.

I do think being unreactive can sometimes be helpful when having social anxiety and having to deal with people picking on us. Sometimes people laughed at me during class. But since I kept my frame, the laughs or the picking on me eventually went away.

[freshjive]

Originally Posted by shynesshellasucks

I hugely doubt an unattrative person or even an average person can pull a 10 by being delusional and faking and hiding all the bad aspects they have inside of themselves. By an unattractive fat guy being nonreactive, he may come off as being delusional; and his actions may come off weird.

I disagree.

We all know somebody who does well socially and with women on their personality alone despite not having good looks or money. Kevin Federline is probably the biggest example I can think of. I dont think any women thought he was particularly good looking, he was a stuggling dancer and he pulled the most sought after woman in the world. Napoleon, Al Pacino, Tom Cruise, Neil Strauss ..etc all short guys, less than 5'7" tall, who could blame their short comings on their height, but didnt let it hold them back.