Social Anxiety Support

sssig · 09-10-2009, 07:53 PM

Has anyone ever tried this? It supposedly helps with SA and has been used for thousands of years by pacific islanders.

millenniumman75 · 09-10-2009, 08:23 PM

I think it is only sold in health food stores.

sssig · 09-10-2009, 08:43 PM

^online aswell. But i just tried to research it and i didnt find too much. No real reviews , so i was wondering if anyone here has

Happ2beme · 09-10-2009, 08:54 PM

Yes, I've tried it.

It tastes like dirt.

First you'll notice the dirt taste and bitterness. Then the tip of your tongue gets numb. Then the bitterness seems to go away as the whole inside of your mouth feels numb.

You'll get a numbing high. Once was enough of a trial for me. I bet if the pacific islanders had a cold Bud instead, they'd be just as happy.

My friends make it a dailey treat.

millenniumman75 · 09-18-2009, 04:25 AM

You're better off going to a health food store then. You never know what you could get online.

Kava Kana apparently can lead to liver issues - I was advised against it for being on Paxil. It wasn't worth the chance when Paxil was doing the job.

irma · 09-18-2009, 04:32 AM

I bought a bottle of 30% kavalactone pills, took 14 at first and then 24 pills an hour later and got no effect from it. phenibut was much better.

LaRibbon · 10-02-2009, 02:44 AM

I looked into kava research the other day, and the most recent clinical research studies on kava showed that it has no effect on anxiety disorders.

Thurston Lowe · 10-02-2009, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Happ2beme

It tastes like dirt.

Yes! I think that's the best description of it. It's illegal where I live (Ireland), so I bought some online (oddly, it's not illegal to import it in small quantities), in the hope of curing a bout of insomnia. I found it very difficult to drink, because of the taste. I mean, I literally couldn't swallow it without immediately feeling sick. I've read that mixing it with fruit juice can help eradicate the bitterness.

wxolue · 10-04-2009, 07:34 PM

Heres what I know:

Its illegal in most of Europe because it has been proven to cause liver failure. However, the studies that concluded this were done on the plant. The root, which is what gives you the kava kava affect (the plant is sometimes added to make more use of the otherwise useless plant) will not hurt your liver. If you buy some, make sure it is only the root, or root extract.

It tastes like crap. But you can mix it with juice or add sugar to take the edge off.

It gives you a numbing feeling that really relaxes your muscles. The only way to see if it helps is to try it!

Dezty · 10-28-2009, 07:40 AM

I have tried kava capsules but it did not help,only gave me pain in the head.

Vini Vidi Vici · 10-28-2009, 02:29 PM

i tried it and it was amazing, made me feel stoned, dizzy, a little nauseated, but killed alot of my social and other anxiety. however i found it hard to concentrate or remember anything...didnt work to well in math. i used the WHOLE HEALTH brand

Keith · 10-28-2009, 02:38 PM

Ive tried the liquid extract I didnt feel any effects, i think the powder is the way to go

euphoria · 10-28-2009, 04:17 PM

I've heard kava root is the best way to go. I wouldn't bother with capsules, extracts, and so on; traditional root preparation has a much better safety record.

This overview of kava is somewhat worrying:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...ient-kava.html

As is this:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3374423

Even putting the modern extracts' issues aside, kava could be inherently toxic when used heavily. The descriptions of heavy kava users aren't something any sane person would aspire to. Perhaps green tea or N-acetyl-cysteine could protect the liver when using kava, but that's pure speculation (and liver toxicity isn't the only reported negative effect).

The jury's still out on kava, but I think non-regular use with the traditional preparation is likely to be perfectly safe if you avoid alcohol and are aware that it can interact with meds, supplements & drugs.

Dezty · 10-29-2009, 08:38 PM

You can read about kava here
http://www.konakavafarm.com/kava-capsules.html

xboxfreak · 10-30-2009, 06:45 PM

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/...ava-kava-45974

If you use the root, there should not be any risk of liver damage. The problem was with extracts. Pacific Islanders have been using lots of Kava for many many years and have had no history of liver disease/damage. Check out that thread for more information.

superhappyfunchica · 10-30-2009, 08:59 PM

i've taken the "happy camper" pills and they make me feel a little dizzy and light-headed, more loose, which is good. but not really worth the price!

09-10-2009, 07:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
sssig Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 93	Kava Has anyone ever tried this? It supposedly helps with SA and has been used for thousands of years by pacific islanders.

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millenniumman75 Status: Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dayton-Cincinnati, OH Gender: Male Age: 34 Posts: 38,682	I think it is only sold in health food stores. __________________ millenniumman75 You are a success story waiting to happen! Live and let live VACUUMS more than a Hoover.... Live and HELP live is better!

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Happ2beme Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yucaipa, California Gender: Male Age: 45 Posts: 241	Yes, I've tried it. It tastes like dirt. First you'll notice the dirt taste and bitterness. Then the tip of your tongue gets numb. Then the bitterness seems to go away as the whole inside of your mouth feels numb. You'll get a numbing high. Once was enough of a trial for me. I bet if the pacific islanders had a cold Bud instead, they'd be just as happy. My friends make it a dailey treat. __________________ Edward Scissorhands. You give the quote "nothing is what it seems" its real meaning! You deserve more than you get, but it takes time and effort knowing you for people to understand they have the real deal here. You are totally original although too idealistic, which makes it difficult for you to be understood...

09-18-2009, 04:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
millenniumman75 Status: Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dayton-Cincinnati, OH Gender: Male Age: 34 Posts: 38,682	You're better off going to a health food store then. You never know what you could get online. Kava Kana apparently can lead to liver issues - I was advised against it for being on Paxil. It wasn't worth the chance when Paxil was doing the job. __________________ millenniumman75 You are a success story waiting to happen! Live and let live VACUUMS more than a Hoover.... Live and HELP live is better!

10-28-2009, 02:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Vini Vidi Vici Status: altruistic philanthropist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota Gender: Male Age: 18 Posts: 289	i tried it and it was amazing, made me feel stoned, dizzy, a little nauseated, but killed alot of my social and other anxiety. however i found it hard to concentrate or remember anything...didnt work to well in math. i used the WHOLE HEALTH brand __________________ Please don't take or trust any medical advice from me...Consult a perffessional. meds taken for extended period of time: zyprexa, zoloft, risperdal, klonopin, temazepam, xanax, agomelatine, ambien, adderall, metadate, EMSAM, selegiline, paxil, lexapro, wellbutrin, seroquel, trazodone, clonidine, tramadol, remeron, vyvanse, concerta, Lunesta, Parnate. Current Meds: Parnate 30 mg, Diagnoses- Major Depression, OCD, Social Anxiety, GAD

09-10-2009, 08:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
sssig Status: SAS Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 93	^online aswell. But i just tried to research it and i didnt find too much. No real reviews , so i was wondering if anyone here has

09-18-2009, 04:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
irma Status: SAS Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 36	I bought a bottle of 30% kavalactone pills, took 14 at first and then 24 pills an hour later and got no effect from it. phenibut was much better.

10-02-2009, 02:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
LaRibbon Status: Temporarily Banned Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Female Posts: 487	I looked into kava research the other day, and the most recent clinical research studies on kava showed that it has no effect on anxiety disorders.

10-04-2009, 07:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
wxolue Status: SAS Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	Heres what I know: Its illegal in most of Europe because it has been proven to cause liver failure. However, the studies that concluded this were done on the plant. The root, which is what gives you the kava kava affect (the plant is sometimes added to make more use of the otherwise useless plant) will not hurt your liver. If you buy some, make sure it is only the root, or root extract. It tastes like crap. But you can mix it with juice or add sugar to take the edge off. It gives you a numbing feeling that really relaxes your muscles. The only way to see if it helps is to try it!

10-28-2009, 07:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
Dezty Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sweden Gender: Female Posts: 21	I have tried kava capsules but it did not help,only gave me pain in the head.

10-28-2009, 02:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Keith Status: available for download... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lowell, Massachusetts Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 843	Ive tried the liquid extract I didnt feel any effects, i think the powder is the way to go __________________ "Difficulties are things that show a person what they are" -Epictetus "Its always darkest before the dawn" -? "If your going through hell, keep going" -Winston Churchill

10-28-2009, 04:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
euphoria Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,650	I've heard kava root is the best way to go. I wouldn't bother with capsules, extracts, and so on; traditional root preparation has a much better safety record. This overview of kava is somewhat worrying: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...ient-kava.html As is this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3374423 Even putting the modern extracts' issues aside, kava could be inherently toxic when used heavily. The descriptions of heavy kava users aren't something any sane person would aspire to. Perhaps green tea or N-acetyl-cysteine could protect the liver when using kava, but that's pure speculation (and liver toxicity isn't the only reported negative effect). The jury's still out on kava, but I think non-regular use with the traditional preparation is likely to be perfectly safe if you avoid alcohol and are aware that it can interact with meds, supplements & drugs. __________________ Disclaimer: I am not a trained medical professional, so consult one before taking any action that may be discussed here.

10-29-2009, 08:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dezty Status: SAS Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sweden Gender: Female Posts: 21	You can read about kava here http://www.konakavafarm.com/kava-capsules.html

10-30-2009, 06:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
xboxfreak Status: SAS Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 209	http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/...ava-kava-45974 If you use the root, there should not be any risk of liver damage. The problem was with extracts. Pacific Islanders have been using lots of Kava for many many years and have had no history of liver disease/damage. Check out that thread for more information.

10-30-2009, 08:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
superhappyfunchica Status: SAS Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MI Gender: Female Posts: 75	i've taken the "happy camper" pills and they make me feel a little dizzy and light-headed, more loose, which is good. but not really worth the price!